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 Post subject: Spare equipment at live shows
PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:04 pm 
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When we play live, I always bring 3 extra pieces of equipment that I consider could be a show stopper. An extra bass drum head, a backup bass drum pedal, and an extra snare drum (a throne has often crossed my mind too). I am amazed that I see drummers carry none of this when they play. I ask them, "What happens if your bass drum head breaks or your pedal breaks during a song and you have no spares?" I get "I dunno, I guess I am screwed" or "I never thought of that". I'm thinking, (besides my throne collapsing and me falling on my backside), that is my worst nightmare and yes, you are indeed screwed!



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 Post subject: Keep them in the car
PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:13 pm 
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I just keep them in the car. My wife asked me once why I had all this extra stuff with me. I gave her those exact reasons why. She said i prepair better for playing out than our marriage.
I used to have the kick pedal attached to the front of the bass drum and just said it was my trubute to the late Randy Costio.
But I had other reasons



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Ok so now I have to ask, if something busts while you are in the middle of playing a song, do you run out the door to your car during your set? I can't imagine you park it next to your kit!

What studio are you recording at? I may be looking at some options.



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we recorded at Rob Erb's place out in Holcomb. It was a blast a great deal for 5hrs. Just have to mix it down now.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:37 pm 
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Aside from the obligatory spare sticks in the stick bag, I occasionally bring a spare snare. I also keep spare kick pedal springs in there.
I try to keep regular maintainence on my kit to ensure no surprises of this kind at gigs.
When I'm on the road it's a different story. I keep a full set of heads in the trailor. Additional felts, sleeves and wing nuts. small set of tools. As well as a spare pedal and hihat clutch. It pays to be prepared!!!


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 Post subject: last night pedal replacement
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:12 pm 
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Last night I had my main pedal on my right kick (DW5000AD3) bust in a funny spot. The beater snapped and went flying leaving a small portion of the stem in the part where you tighten it with your drum key. So a quick switch and body shift to the other bass drum to finish the song did the trick. All I had to do was replace the beater with one on my 2 spare pedals. Fortunatly the song I was playing had no more dual bass left in it so "I did not miss a beat"! ( I know that was lame). Just glad it did not happen during the midst of relentlessness though...



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 Post subject: Broken beater
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:59 pm 
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I have an old back stage pass video from Scott Travis from like 88'. Hespoke of tis same issue and said something about a heat treated stem.
Your more than welcome to borrow it if you want. He has an extensive portion on dbl bass tricks and tech.



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:01 pm 
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Well, I guess i'm screwed most of the time because I don't carry any of that stuff with me. I do go over everything before I load up and replace anything that looks flaky if need be. If anything happens during a gig, I either fix it there or find another way to do what I need. If the kick head breaks, I just switch the kick around or just use my second floor tom. Snare head breaks, take a bottom off a tom, etc......

I've never had to do thid before because I've never had anything break on me. However, I did an entire outdoor, 3-set gig with just my snare and hats.


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The only "in case of breakage" spares I carry to gigs are just extra sticks. I've never broken equipment on a gig while playing.
Other than that, the spares I do carry are snares and ride cymbals. Depending on the room acoustics, miked or unmiked, low volume requirements, etc... I'll put up the right snare/ride for the situation.
For example, on an outside gig like Lilac Festival with big PA, I'll put up a heavier ride and a metal snare (usually my '68 Ludwig Supra) so I'm sure to cut through the wall of sound.
Or, for a quiet show in a smaller room, I'll put up a wood snare and my light K Constantinople ride.


  
 
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Whoops! I posted that one as a guest. That was me, in case anybody cares.

Anonymous wrote:
The only "in case of breakage" spares I carry to gigs are just extra sticks. I've never broken equipment on a gig while playing.
Other than that, the spares I do carry are snares and ride cymbals. Depending on the room acoustics, miked or unmiked, low volume requirements, etc... I'll put up the right snare/ride for the situation.
For example, on an outside gig like Lilac Festival with big PA, I'll put up a heavier ride and a metal snare (usually my '68 Ludwig Supra) so I'm sure to cut through the wall of sound.
Or, for a quiet show in a smaller room, I'll put up a wood snare and my light K Constantinople ride.



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 Post subject: should have had a spare
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:01 pm 
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Played a show recently and this guy drops and bends the crap out of his snare popping the head completely out of the rim before he was to go on. I never seen anything like it from just a drop. I asked him what he was going to do. He says, I'm screwed (ya think?!). Being the gentleman, scholar and jerk that I am, I let him use mine. You will never catch me without an extra bass drum head (I actually bring 2), a backup bass drum pedal (again with 2), or an extra snare drum (just 1). You completly bust one of these things while playing and you are hosed period. I can live with a busted cymbal or mangled up tom head (but would be deeply saddened) but not one of the aforemetioned. And as far as using the the floor tom for a bass drum...yeah right, not in my neck of the woods. Ooops almost forgot, have to have at least a few pair of my Neil Peart 747 30th Anniversaries too! Be prepared...have the lifeboat ready in case the ship meets the iceberg.



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 Post subject: Re: Spare equipment at live shows
PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:10 pm 

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You won't believe this. I fell down twice while playing. My drum seat leg broke at the rivet and I fell to the side against my floor toms. I had to finish the song standing up. The second time,I was playing at a high school in the gym when the leg on my seat slipped in to the crack between two sections of stage. I fell back and did a complete backwards flip off the stage. The song stopped and oh well, I guess it was just part of the show but boy, was I in shock. As for me, seats were a problem. But I get annoyed with the small stuff like forgetting a drum key or not bringing a towel. But beyond all, don't ever forget the duct tape. Joe Ulisano in Orlando.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:25 am 
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I know its been said.... but I always bring to snares... a wood one and a metal. I do this for 2 reason. The first is as stated before, if I break a head(unusual, I usually wear them out with brushes), the second is so I have an option.. if a room is real dead I use the metal snare. I have a real problem playing a snare if it sounds like its a empty cardboard box. It totally throws my ears.. so then the metal snare compensates. and the same follows for a metal, if the room is harsh, you can use the warmer wood snare. To me its worth carring an extra snare just for sound choices. I also carry a stick bag full of sticks, and a couple of varies heads get left in the van. The other thing I do is leave a ludwig speed king in my trap case... I do this because a speed king can be broken down into 2 pieces and takes up little space. That way I always have a back up and its not bulky. I have had my trusty DW5000 double chain pedal crap out on in the middle of shows... and its great to know that in 2 seconds after the song is over I can be up and playing again with a new pedal.



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 Post subject: Re: Spare equipment at live shows
PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:01 am 
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We played The Montage last Saturday and the place is in great shape. With the red curtains draped all over the place and the way it is configured, is a real distinct venue and a great place to play. Anyway, I load in and run (drive) home and right before I leave to go back and catch the opening band is when I get the phone call. "Uh- TK, do you have an extra bass drum head? They just busted theirs and go on in 15 minutes". It was a single bass drum setup with a double pedal. Good thing it was a 22" bass drum as I always bring 2 extras in that size (1 spare for each of my best friends!). Again...extra bass drum head, extra snare, and extra bass drum pedal!



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